How is that not antisemitic?

Maybe instead if like the last time you should have respected my request to not be pinged thank you :)
@greenteakitten said in #36:
> Maybe, instead of using the word "imagine", we can just acknowledge that there's racism everywhere, towards everyone?
There is a difference between imaging you are THE ONLY ONE suffering and acknowledging that everyone is suffering.
The first one isn't leafing no where and would just instead lead to making the problem bigger
The second one is the first step to the solution
> Yes, we know that.
Based on your answer bellow I doubt you didn't understand but ok
> I think most people saw the sarcasm in your original post. You got downvoted because you tried to tell people what was anti-semitic and what wasn't.
Do you think supporting gaza is anti Semitic?
Here is the thing
When ever someone supports gaza they are called out for being anti Semitic, Nazis ...
While these same people ignore the true anti semitism
Supporting gaza isn't anti Semitic
What happened in the movie was

Another thing is when I pointed out sexism in a movie I was told to not analyze movies to that level and instead just enjoy the movie.
When it is discrimination against specific people no one cares but against others it becomes huge
> Yes it was.
So you think supporting gaza is against jews?
> Because that wasn't what the original post was about! You can go a day without bringing in Gaza politics, for sure.
You cannot spend a day without coming at anything I say and calling it extremist or nazi or whatever even if it has no relation to what I actually said
> And the sarcasm itself is a strawman. I believe most people saw the sarcasm. But
> 1) It's an oversimplified argument and a strawman
> 2) It doesn't have anything really to do with the original post
> Not everything has to be about Israel and Palestine.
Ok and it wasn't about Palestine zionist debate
It was about how innocent people gets called nazis for supporting gaza while people clearly showing anti semitism doesn't get told anything
Just check what happened to Elon Musk and X recently
> Just because you've been discriminated against doesn't mean you're an absolute expert on it now. Don't tell other people what to think, or bring up random politics out of nowhere, and you'll have a foot to stand on.
It wasn't about politics
It was about how random people gets accused of anti semitism for nothing while others even if they show clear discrimination doesn't get told anything

@Zurel said in #33:
> Racism only has power because we give it such

We can ignore the weirdos obsessing over the "great replacement" conspiracy theory all we want. It won't stop them from shooting up a grocery store or a mosque or a synagogue or a mall again and again and again. Racism doesn't lose power just because we pretend it doesn't exist - indeed, many of the most racist people are very eager to claim that racism doesn't exist, and that anyone whining about it is lying or stupid. Pretending it isn't real just means that the people suffering from it lose the ability to fight back.

@CadyRocks said in #42:
> We can ignore the weirdos obsessing over the "great replacement" conspiracy theory all we want. It won't stop them from shooting up a grocery store or a mosque or a synagogue or a mall again and again and again. Racism doesn't lose power just because we pretend it doesn't exist - indeed, many of the most racist people are very eager to claim that racism doesn't exist, and that anyone whining about it is lying or stupid. Pretending it isn't real just means that the people suffering from it lose the ability to fight back.

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@greenteakitten said in #38:
> Why do we have to talk about Gaza in every single off-topic forum post? Dragging the war into everything isn't going to really help. It's just going to end with a bunch of people hating each other on behalf of their side in politics. Dragging Gaza into every single forum post is only going to make people stop listening to what you have to say. Which is kind of ironic, considering none of us are actually on the battlefield right now.
> People didn't mention October 7 in the original post? Moreover, iirc you don't believe October 7 was caused by Hamas?
I'm sick of people thinking Hamas is a terrorist organisation, and no I don't believe the civilian deaths in the music festival were caused my Hamas. I want to talk about else than the conflict on at least one post, it's just so annoying to have people disaggreing despite proving them wrong.

@WassimBerbar said in #44:
> I'm sick of people thinking Hamas is a terrorist organisation, and no I don't believe the civilian deaths in the music festival were caused my Hamas. I want to talk about else than the conflict on at least one post, it's just so annoying to have people disaggreing despite proving them wrong.

Yeah I don't want to drag Hamas and Israel to this again. Actually, most people in this forum that will argue to the death over the war will actually be really respectful and nice to each other when not talking about politics :)

So let's leave politics out of this, shall we? If you drag Israel and Hamas into everything, no one wants to hear what you want to say anymore.

@four_legs_good said in #46:
> YOU are the one who brought up the Gaza conflict in this thread despite it not being related.
No it was me actually:_)

@sdkman said in #41:
> Maybe instead if like the last time you should have respected my request to not be pinged thank you :)
Sorry, I thought on the other post, you meant you didn't want to be pinged on Gaza and Hamas. This isn't about Gaza or Hamas so I assumed you were fine with it.
Since you pinged me I'm going to assume you're fine with me pinging you to reply? Unless you mean otherwise, then I apologize.
> There is a difference between imaging you are THE ONLY ONE suffering and acknowledging that everyone is suffering.
No one here is saying so and so are the only people suffering. Where did you get that from?
> The first one isn't leafing no where and would just instead lead to making the problem bigger
I agree
> The second one is the first step to the solution
I agree with this too. But I fail to see where anyone was saying the opposite.
> Based on your answer bellow I doubt you didn't understand but ok
I think we should acknowledge that racism is everywhere. I don't know where you got all this stuff from after reading my post.
> Do you think supporting gaza is anti Semitic?
I thought we were done with Gaza. And no, I don't think it is anti-Semitic. But depends on what you count as "support"
> Here is the thing
> When ever someone supports gaza they are called out for being anti Semitic, Nazis ...
That's more of a strawman argument.
> While these same people ignore the true anti semitism
> Supporting gaza isn't anti Semitic
> What happened in the movie was
But you just said earlier that what happened in the movie wasn't antisemitic and now you're saying it is? You're confusing me a bit here.
> Another thing is when I pointed out sexism in a movie I was told to not analyze movies to that level and instead just enjoy the movie.
Was that the one where you tried to say that Hollywood was being sexist towards men?
> When it is discrimination against specific people no one cares but against others it becomes huge
True to a certain extent, but certainly not true here. Leave the conspiracy theories out of this, please.
> So you think supporting gaza is against jews?
No. And I don't think we should drag Gaza into this.
> You cannot spend a day without coming at anything I say and calling it extremist or nazi or whatever even if it has no relation to what I actually said
Bruh I have not called you extremist or Nazi.
> Ok and it wasn't about Palestine zionist debate
Yeah it wasn't, so let's not bring it into this. Can we spend a day without bringing Gaza into everything? Please? It'll be a good break for eveyrone.
> It was about how innocent people gets called nazis for supporting gaza while people clearly showing anti semitism doesn't get told anything
I have no idea where you're getting all this from. But I think that we should just, you know, not mention Gaza randomly.
> Just check what happened to Elon Musk and X recently
I don't check X honestly, I think it's really more of a waste of time...
> It wasn't about politics
> It was about how random people gets accused of anti semitism for nothing while others even if they show clear discrimination doesn't get told anything
Okay cool. Why don't you make a separate forum topic for that? There are many people more than willing to have a constructive discussion about that. But just bringing your political views into anything and everything isn't going to help.

@greenteakitten simple answer, in sarcasm you usually mean the inverse of what you say, go to my original post and multiply it by -1
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiphrasis
The movie was clearly anti Semitic and I thought people would understand I was being sarcastic
It was so obvious that the movie was racist that I though people would somehow understand I meant the inverse of what I wrote

@sdkman said in #49:
>

Because you added the Gaza part, people assumed that the Gaza part (Oh you can't criticize Israel ever!) was sarcastic, and the other part wasn't.
Or maybe there are people that understood the sarcasm but downvoted you anyway for the Gaza part.

Try using /s to help us all next time :)