Why don't Muslims pressure Egypt and Jordan to let in Palestinian Refugees?

They should be helping their brothers of the faith, instead their governments don't allow any refugees and are thus complicit in the problem.

They are perfectly capable.. however they say 'accepting palestinians undermines a future palestinian state'

What tf kind of weak justification is that - so they would rather tens upon tens of thousands of innocents die (when they could help them) - because it undermines a political goal?

My bet is they just don't want to accept the burden at all. Not accepting the most vulnerable children and women under political pretense is weak and disturbing.

www.npr.org/2023/12/12/1218388766/egypt-israel-gaza-palestinians-hamas

www.businessinsider.com/why-jordan-egypt-say-no-to-refugees-from-gaza-experts-2023-10

The title should be: Why don't muslims pressure their leaders to fight with Palestinians ?
Palestinians have their land. They don't need to go anywhere because they have a land, Palestinians leaving gaza would just be an excuse for the zionists to take gaza as a part of their land, and later on attack Egypt with pretext of hiding terrorists and taking parts of it and so on and so forth until they achiwhat according to them is great Israel

I feel like complaining about the unwillingness of Jordan and Egypt to take in more refugees is missing the somewhat more important fact that Israel is committing ethnic cleansing and genocide in Palestine. This is not a temporary rehousing; this is two million people who will have nowhere else to go, because they've had their homeland violently taken from them. It also isn't the first time this has happened - the Nakba created some 700,000 Palestinian refugees, who were taken in by neighboring states and refused the right to return.

There are also concerns that this massive, coherent population of displaced refugees might cause problems for peace in the region. Like, say, Palestinian militants driven out of Gaza and into Egypt fighting back against Israel and dragging Egypt into a war. If you think this isn't a real concern, consider that Israel has also been bombing Lebanon and Syria due to the actions of Hezbollah. There's really no guarantee that Israel stops with Gaza - in fact, it has been ramping up the ethnic cleansing of the West Bank as well.

I wonder why Jordan isn't super interested in taking in a bunch of refugees from territory that Israel annexed from it.

And yeah, it should be stated outright, a lot of people (most prominently Palestinians) aren't super interested in seeing Israel violently seize control of all Palestinian lands. They see the ethnic cleansing of Palestine as a moral atrocity, and have no interest in legitimizing it. Israel does not have the right to simply displace millions of people onto its neighbors, and blaming those neighbors for refusing to enable a genocide is pretty absurd.

@CadyRocks

I don't think @twighead's question was about that though. Simply, people live in the Gaza Strip if they want, and if they also want, they have a safer place to live. I don't see how it's a bad question - sure, it's not that black and white - but that also doesn't mean we have to avoid the question either.

@CadyRocks said in #3:
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And yet it is happening, and no pressure placed upon Israel has had significant effect... It is far better to have an option to leave, live and hopefully return.

Or what is the solution then? For them to keep dying until Israel feels sated? What are they dying for? Is there some magical # of dead that will change the situation? I doubt it. Face it - there is no political solution in sight here, the US or Israel isn't going to budge, so what then?

The best thing I can think of - is saving lives and getting them out of harms way, and the only realistic path to doing that is via Egypt and Jordan right now.

@CadyRocks And on the topic of genocide - I'm extremely grateful my family decided to leave Ukraine during Holodomor and not die for some symbolic claim of land - and also grateful for the other part of my family that escaped Poland rather than to die in the holocaust there. The US could've easily given the same answer as you (and many did) "It's not the responsibility of other countries to take in any refugees! They're just legitimizing nazis/russia/etc.) "

It's stubborn pride to cling to land in a hopeless circumstance... but it is their question to answer, whether their lives and their families lives are worth the risk.

@sdkman said in #2:
> The title should be: Why don't muslims pressure their leaders to fight with Palestinians ?
> Palestinians have their land. They don't need to go anywhere because they have a land, Palestinians leaving gaza would just be an excuse for the zionists to take gaza as a part of their land, and later on attack Egypt with pretext of hiding terrorists and taking parts of it and so on and so forth until they achiwhat according to them is great Israel

1) Because they've lost every war against Israel even when the odds were massively in their favor - hence why most arab countries have normalized relations instead of continuing to antagonize Israel. The odds have not improved. If anything they are much worse.

2) Well, it seems to me Israel is settling and taking land regardless of how many people live there (and it's not like it's a mandatory evacuation - if Hamas wants to stay and fight, so be it - I'm more worried about the innocents) - that won't change until the Netanyahu government is gone, and that won't happen until they run out of threats to scare people into voting for them.

3) I doubt they'd attack Egypt again, in truth it is Egypt's restraint here that shows they are fully dedicated to satisfying Israel & staying out of conflict by any means...Anyway I don't think it's a Lebanon type situation if they did accept refugees - Egypt's govt and situation is much different. Lebanon is/was too weak and unstable to control their own land.

But then there's the whole muslim brotherhood being banned in Egypt - of which Hamas originates from so not sure how they feel about that either.

Oh and sorry to quadruple post, but there is another large factor here - as soon as the hostilities broke out in Gaza - the US parked the worlds largest aircraft carrier right outside... a clear message that any other countries that want to get involved would be fighting more than just Israel.

- @sdkman said in #2:
> The title should be: Why don't muslims pressure their leaders to fight with Palestinians ?

@twighead said in #8:
> Oh and sorry to quadruple post, but there is another large factor here - as soon as the hostilities broke out in Gaza - the US parked the worlds largest aircraft carrier right outside... a clear message that any other countries that want to get involved would be fighting more than just Israel.
Economical war
They don't need weapons
They are surrounded from all sides
Sea wise to get where they want they need to go by many muslim territories
If you block them from going through you destroy their economy

@sdkman said in #9:
> Economical war
> They don't need weapons
> They are surrounded from all sides
> Sea wise to get where they want they need to go by many muslim territories
> If you block them from going through you destroy their economy

I seem to recall to have explained you already that Israel has access to sea so they're not surrounded.

The sea is not "Muslim territory".