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Low elo resignation etiquette

#11
@griffindabeast said in #2:
> @MuaddibX never resign. I’ve drawn/won way too many lost games. It’s never over untill it’s over.
Yeah bro NEVER RESIGN!! I've had the same experience too. Don't rush , just play calmly. You got a lot of time. Goodluck and the lichess community wishes you all the best!
#12
I just wanted to to say thank you all for your kind wishes and thoughtful advice!
#13
Ethical chess players tend to try to win on the merits of their own play. They avoid getting a reputation for rudeness by gracefully winning and losing their games. When a piece is unable to move it lacks mobility. So it's not unethical or rude to checkmate. What is unethical is using assistance, closing the browser without ending the game. It's important to choose time controls you can reasonably manage. Making people wait is considered rude, so wise time management is recommended to reduce stress.

Ranked from most to least ethical:

1. Resigning by conceding defeat is graceful;
2. Mutual agreed draws is useful;
3. Three fold repetition is forceful;
4. Claiming a draw by rules is when the above 3 are not applied;
5. Insufficient material to mate, should hasten an end game;
6. Timeout losses or wins are the least satisfying way to end a game.

It's best to practice your skills in casual (unrated games), rather than rated games. This helps you avoid appearing ignorant in competitive matches. Prolonged waits that delays the game because of lack of experience can impact other players and the tournament schedule. Fatiguing your opponents or delaying the next round so you can practice endgames that are clearly lost is inconsiderate to the other players. Try to be mindful of how your actions affect the experience of the entire group.

It's ethical to start and finish games on time. Expect some wait during the middle game, and aim to end games gracefully.
#14
@Toscani said in #13:
> Ethical chess players tend to try to win on the merits of their own play. They avoid getting a reputation for rudeness by gracefully winning and losing their games. When a piece is unable to move it lacks mobility. So it's not unethical or rude to checkmate. What is unethical is using assistance, closing the browser without ending the game. It's important to choose time controls you can reasonably manage. Making people wait is considered rude, so wise time management is recommended to reduce stress.
>
> Ranked from most to least ethical:
>
> 1. Resigning by conceding defeat is graceful;
> 2. Mutual agreed draws is useful;
> 3. Three fold repetition is forceful;
> 4. Claiming a draw by rules is when the above 3 are not applied;
> 5. Insufficient material to mate, should hasten an end game;
> 6. Timeout losses or wins are the least satisfying way to end a game.
>
> It's best to practice your skills in casual (unrated games), rather than rated games. This helps you avoid appearing ignorant in competitive matches. Prolonged waits that delays the game because of lack of experience can impact other players and the tournament schedule. Fatiguing your opponents or delaying the next round so you can practice endgames that are clearly lost is inconsiderate to the other players. Try to be mindful of how your actions affect the experience of the entire group.
>
> It's ethical to start and finish games on time. Expect some wait during the middle game, and aim to end games gracefully.

not a single person rated less than 1500 is going to appear ignorant of not resigning a lost position
if for example you are 2400 and you are playing against another, and you are completely lost (no chances whatsoever), i guess it is considered somewhat "ethical" to resign

but seriously. at <1500 blunders will happen, and it certainly should not be considered "ignorant" or "rude" in this case (considering literally every other or 3rd move is a inaccuracy, mistake, or blunder.)
#16
I should clarify, I used "ignorant" as being perceived as "more ignorant" to your oppenent than you already are.

You would not appear more ignorant to your 1000 rated opponent.

The one who would appear ignorant is that 1000 rated opponent blundering a completely won game, which is going to happen.
#17
@AuraZ0 on lichess i win and draw lost games all the time against players in the 2000-2200 category and I imagine even for masters it happens a lot. Just one wrong move and you can force a draw of repetition or he will lose a piece and your back in the game. And even winning completely lost games. I don’t think anyone should resign from a game untill you know your opponent has a forced mate and he obviously knows it aswell. And anyone who’s lower rated should never resign. I beat my friend who’s a 1400 4 times in a row with queen odds. It just shows how many mistakes you make at lower levels and how easily you could come back from a lost game
#19
Personally, I always found the strict "never resign" rule quite short sighted. The reasoning almost always is that "there is always a chance". Sure, there is... but is it really worth it? Can't help feeling that there is a silent assumption that points, score or rating is all that matters. But if it's not the case and you also care how you feel about your games, does it really make sense to keep playing a lost game with no prospect except a hope that your opponent still might blunder big way and you might score a lucky point (or half)? I don't think so.

For me, it makes sense to keep playing if I have active pieces, some potential for active play some plans to try or to create "opportunities for my opponent to make mistakes". If this is not the case and all I can do is to passively wait and hope for a blunder, I rather resign as I don't feel the chance that I might score a lucky point is really worth it. So I played on in a game where I ended up with two minor pieces for a queen in early middlegame as I had active position, active pieces and I saw potential to make things harder for my opponent - and only resigned when the picture changed and I saw no potential any more. On the other hand, there were games where I only lost a minor piece but I didn't see any potential or counterplay so that I resigned early. And I feel no regret, whatever the "never resign" folk says.

All this assumes it's a game I play for myself only. It's a bit different in team competitions, of course. There I often keep playing even if I would have resigned long ago normally.